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[*] posted on 19-11-2012 at 07:18 PM
Lack of Coon?


I don't want to minimize the Fly Bait issue but I wonder if there might be another contributing factor to the low coon population. We had a long season last year. I have noticed that most of my early coon are males. This year so far 75% have been males and last year the results were similar. Is it possible, last year, we took more females out of the population than we would have in a season full of ice and snow?



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[*] posted on 19-11-2012 at 10:43 PM


It's not all fly bait, that's just a localised issue. The open season last year probably had some affect, as did the summer drought. There are also always areas of distemper, which can be increased by stressful conditions.



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[*] posted on 20-11-2012 at 02:23 AM


My catch is down about 40%. I have noticed a significant portion of my catch has distemper to varying degrees. It happened the last time we had a hot, dry summer too. Was told by a biologist that coons tend to concentrate together during such weather conditions, and localized over-populations near food/water sources leads to the spread of the disease.



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[*] posted on 20-11-2012 at 09:58 AM


Numbers arent down here, already over 100 and am still on the first farm. The catch rate isnt slowing down at all.
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[*] posted on 20-11-2012 at 12:12 PM


Quote: Originally posted by podunk  
Numbers arent down here, already over 100 and am still on the first farm. The catch rate isnt slowing down at all.



how big is that farm??? i can't imagine an area around here with a 100+ coon.




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[*] posted on 20-11-2012 at 01:05 PM


Chris knows where the farms with big stock piles of hog feed are!



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[*] posted on 20-11-2012 at 01:19 PM


Must be along the Blanchard I bet? That is a huge amount of coon!



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[*] posted on 20-11-2012 at 06:03 PM


From an average of 20 coon per stop for me last year to 2 -9 coon this year.

Fly bait is word of mouth around here any more.

One spot one FC and no coon in 5 days of being set.

Coon trails were heavy , and now they seem to of vanished.

Over 40 new sets yesterday , (warm front moving in last night) 2 coon today ???????????????

I hope this new spot isn't hit by fly bait.

Remember , coon will go for miles to find a food source , so a farm 3-5 miles away could effect the coon numbers else where.




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[*] posted on 20-11-2012 at 06:49 PM


Isnt any hog feed close but it was supposedly baited this summer. The farm itself is a little over 100 acres and yes it is along the Blanchard. The farmer thinks the coon and deer took 60 to 80 bushels per acre the last 2 years. He calls me every day to see how many i caught then begs me to stay.
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[*] posted on 20-11-2012 at 08:34 PM


I have seen a major drop in coon and activity in my area. I have been very lucky for past several years with not having distemper going through coon. I think that might be the problem this year. No sows look like been nursed and mostly big males and big females. Caught 3 of the smalles coon so far, today, but they were in 10-12 pound range. I've also not seen dead coon. I did lose a coon today. Somebody shot it and took it from trap n left trap. All indications from scene lead me to believe it was a coon hunter. Not sure if any coon hunters have permission on this farm. Am gonna ask farmer.
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[*] posted on 20-11-2012 at 09:47 PM


I'm not running many coon traps 7 DP's and 6 pockets ive got 5 large and 2 small coons all males up untill Friday then bam no coons at all had 1 set dug up a little but didn't connect. i'm moveing all my traps to a couple new farms this weekend for deer gun week hope the catches begin again.



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[*] posted on 20-11-2012 at 09:55 PM


Man, you guys aren't makin me feel optimistic. Was gonna start tryin to catch some this week.



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[*] posted on 20-11-2012 at 10:30 PM


I caught two yesterday and two this morning. Yesterday was an Xlg and XXXlg and same today. I've caught a total of 11 off this farm so far. Which is about what I caught last year. Although last year I had more XXXlg and XXlg. I've got six XLg and five XXXlg so far. Coon sign is very little though. I was looking for trails today to set some snares and the trails aren't active. I did see a little bit of sign close to the water near tree root systems. The high bank trails aren't active either as there are leaves still lying on the trails.
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[*] posted on 20-11-2012 at 11:23 PM


So far I'm happy with my take so far this year, I have 18 to 24 coon, mink sets out and am 45 coon. I was going to pull a couple of sets but went to check today and had a #21.6 and a #20.6 pair of boars 20 feet apart. I'll leave them the rest of this week and pull most everything this weekend.

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[*] posted on 21-11-2012 at 11:15 PM


I picked up a another XLg coon this morning and a muskrat in my mink sets. All blind sets in tree root systems. This one as a female and she had some bite marks on her. Not sure what she got into. Dan, you better get your traps out tomorrow. Critters should run with the front moving in Friday morning.
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[*] posted on 22-11-2012 at 12:09 AM


all i can say is its unreal! the amount of sets i have out i should be done with my season goal by now. i caught 3 today. 2 of them 4x and one 5x. 2 of them were beautiful color. super silver flanks and long fur. the leather was perfect on them as well. i did pick up another mink today, so maybe i will give up on the coon and put out a mink line.



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[*] posted on 22-11-2012 at 01:54 AM


another 14 today and all good sized but 2. still on the same farm!
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[*] posted on 22-11-2012 at 02:12 AM


ack, I know what you mean about numbers. With the number of dp's I have out and where I'm trapping, I should have 50 coon by now. I have 17. Podunk, need any help?lol
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[*] posted on 22-11-2012 at 03:07 AM


sure come on over catman, im on vacation next week. i have plans--goal to cross the 200 mark next week when i get some new ground set plus i havent set any rat or mink sets out yet and i only got 3 yote sets out!
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[*] posted on 22-11-2012 at 06:20 AM


Things have been way off in my areas too. I have seen more sign the last few days when moving my line. I think sometimes you just have to keep moving to find where the disease has not made it to or where it burned out. I can say after investing my time in building a tumbler to dry fur that I have only taken 6 out of 83 in wet sets. That will teach me to look ahead. Catching most in snares and dry sets. But like Ack said I have alot of sets out and should be doing better on my return.



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[*] posted on 22-11-2012 at 09:51 PM


just my luck on vacation this week otherwise I'd be over for a day.
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[*] posted on 22-11-2012 at 10:32 PM


thats the point im on vacation to trap, so you pick the day!
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[*] posted on 23-11-2012 at 12:37 AM


good thing i added some mink sets yesterday or the 4 coon i caught today would not have happened. i guess i am a slow learner. i set another small field today of standing corn along our local river. not many new tracks in the field but the river banks were loaded! looks like they went to water a few days ago and i never adjusted. now i have a somewhat mixed line so we will see. its been like ground hog day for me. 4 coon and one mink the last 3 days. hopefully tomorrow will be better.



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[*] posted on 23-11-2012 at 12:48 AM


since the coon are not moving i set a few mink sets. had this young male all wound up today. set it yesterday.




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[*] posted on 23-11-2012 at 03:44 AM


I picked up two coon this morning. This brings my total so far to 14 for this farm. One was caught in a DP and the other a snare (neck snared). I was beginning to question my snaring skills, as there was nothing running the trails in over a week. I am suprised that I have caught this many on this farm as the sign is very poor.
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